03 July 2013 @ 12:16 pm
I wrote about this on my writing blog, but I was just looking at an article on racism on the wiki that really hits a nerve for me on this whole issue.

Okay so in fantasy vampire, fairies, elves and whatever else are called races.

Like I have problem with that. To me it seems to be othering races as 'not human' you know what I mean? I just don't like it, I find it distasteful. I don't know if any of this makes sense, but yeah I wanted to record my thoughts on that.
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Kelly[personal profile] subluxate on July 3rd, 2013 05:35 pm (UTC)
What would you prefer they be called? (In my one urban fantasy 'verse, I haven't decided what to call, say, werewolves vs. mages vs. banshees, etc., as compared to regular old humans. So I've avoided the issue by being specific instead. Your input might help me figure that out.)

The anthropological/sociological point of view is that race, as a term for different ethnicities, is an artificial construct--we're "the human race", and then people from different places or with different skin colors are different ethnicities. It doesn't make your point any less valid, though, because when most people hear "race", they think black, white, Asian, and so forth. The regular person's view would probably line up with yours if they thought about it and were remotely aware of social justice.
Lady DT[personal profile] leia_solo on July 3rd, 2013 05:37 pm (UTC)
See to me I would define them as species. As humans as a whole are species while vampires would have similar powers and such would be a different species. Does that make sense?
Kelly[personal profile] subluxate on July 3rd, 2013 05:41 pm (UTC)
That does, yeah. The part that trips me up is that werewolves and vampires can become such, rather than being born that way. (Okay, vampires can't be born that way.) So they were originally human, now they're not, and I'm scientifically-minded enough that the idea of a being changing species entirely trips me up. =P On the other hand, werewolves' DNA DO change, so they would be a different species... Hm. Have to figure it out about vampires, then.

Would you find it othering if I called mages, who are fully human but have special abilities, a race? Magic and being a mage are inherited traits in my 'verse. If you would find it othering, though, I can totally work around it.
Lady DT[personal profile] leia_solo on July 3rd, 2013 08:46 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't think I would. They're still human but they have enhanced powers yet physically they are still humans.
Kelly[personal profile] subluxate on July 3rd, 2013 08:47 pm (UTC)

Thanks. I really don't want to offend when I write in the 'verse.

.: misc: kitty kat[personal profile] pretty_panther on July 3rd, 2013 08:42 pm (UTC)
I agree. To me they are species. Very similar species in some cases (elves to humans for example look very similar) but species none the less.
Lady DT[personal profile] leia_solo on July 3rd, 2013 08:47 pm (UTC)